Intel Core i7-10700 vs Core i7-10700K Review: Is 65W Comet Lake an Option?
by Dr. Ian Cutress on January 21, 2021 10:30 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- Intel
- Core i7
- Z490
- 10th Gen Core
- Comet Lake
- i7-10700K
- i7-10700
CPU Tests: Legacy and Web
In order to gather data to compare with older benchmarks, we are still keeping a number of tests under our ‘legacy’ section. This includes all the former major versions of CineBench (R15, R11.5, R10) as well as x264 HD 3.0 and the first very naïve version of 3DPM v2.1. We won’t be transferring the data over from the old testing into Bench, otherwise it would be populated with 200 CPUs with only one data point, so it will fill up as we test more CPUs like the others.
The other section here is our web tests.
Web Tests: Kraken, Octane, and Speedometer
Benchmarking using web tools is always a bit difficult. Browsers change almost daily, and the way the web is used changes even quicker. While there is some scope for advanced computational based benchmarks, most users care about responsiveness, which requires a strong back-end to work quickly to provide on the front-end. The benchmarks we chose for our web tests are essentially industry standards – at least once upon a time.
It should be noted that for each test, the browser is closed and re-opened a new with a fresh cache. We use a fixed Chromium version for our tests with the update capabilities removed to ensure consistency.
Mozilla Kraken 1.1
Kraken is a 2010 benchmark from Mozilla and does a series of JavaScript tests. These tests are a little more involved than previous tests, looking at artificial intelligence, audio manipulation, image manipulation, json parsing, and cryptographic functions. The benchmark starts with an initial download of data for the audio and imaging, and then runs through 10 times giving a timed result.
We loop through the 10-run test four times (so that’s a total of 40 runs), and average the four end-results. The result is given as time to complete the test, and we’re reaching a slow asymptotic limit with regards the highest IPC processors.
Google Octane 2.0
Our second test is also JavaScript based, but uses a lot more variation of newer JS techniques, such as object-oriented programming, kernel simulation, object creation/destruction, garbage collection, array manipulations, compiler latency and code execution.
Octane was developed after the discontinuation of other tests, with the goal of being more web-like than previous tests. It has been a popular benchmark, making it an obvious target for optimizations in the JavaScript engines. Ultimately it was retired in early 2017 due to this, although it is still widely used as a tool to determine general CPU performance in a number of web tasks.
Speedometer 2: JavaScript Frameworks
Our newest web test is Speedometer 2, which is a test over a series of JavaScript frameworks to do three simple things: built a list, enable each item in the list, and remove the list. All the frameworks implement the same visual cues, but obviously apply them from different coding angles.
Our test goes through the list of frameworks, and produces a final score indicative of ‘rpm’, one of the benchmarks internal metrics.
We repeat over the benchmark for a dozen loops, taking the average of the last five.
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bji - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link
To clarify: 95% was an exaggeration. Micro Center has like 20 or 30 stores and is accessible by more than 5% of the USA population. But it's probably not more than 20%. Anyway any store that is not available to the majority of people cannot be called "general availability".bji - Thursday, January 21, 2021 - link
I mean seriously. If Micro Center were that easy to get through, would there even be a shortage of these chips at online vendors? Everyone would already be satisfied by the Micro Center supply. But a) the fact that there is online shortage means very clearly that most people can't get one from Micro Center (otherwise they already would have and there would not be zero supply online), and b) if a significant fraction of the population could actually get them from Micro Center, Micro Center would clearly already be sold out also.magreen - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
@bji: How do you feel about Microcenter?calc76 - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
I'd suspect its probably well more than 50% of the US population is within an hour drive of a Microcenter. The names of the cities listed on their site aren't all easily recognizable but the metro areas are almost all the large ones.Atlanta
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Dug - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
They were actually available today at Amazon for a very long time at @299. Of course it's back up again after mass ordering at the time I'm posting this.bji - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
I checked several times today. How did I miss that? I doubt it was for a very long time. Probably closer to that 10 minutes I mentioned.jimbo2779 - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
Nephew bought a 5600x for MSRP here in the UK from Currys which is by far the largest national chain of electronics and computer equipment.You could try signing up for an alerts service, providing you have the funds ready to put down you could likely have one in the next week or so. Not as ideal as next day from any major retailer but the chips are coming in stock.
Spunjji - Friday, January 22, 2021 - link
UK here. They do mention low availability of that chip in the article, but I notice that didn't prevent you coming here to whinge about it anyway.From my perspective in the UK, they have 10+ in stock at Overclockers for £299.99 and unspecified stock at CCL for £309.
I must say I especially enjoyed how you elaborately set up the goalposts in your first post, then moved them around with every response. Good game!
bji - Saturday, January 23, 2021 - link
No goalposts were moved. If you'd care to elaborate, I'd respond. Or were you just whining about my whinging?Spunjji - Monday, January 25, 2021 - link
That last bit. 👍Your original post said that none of the processors have had general availability and that it would be months before prices hit MSRP. People have pointed out a few times that in various parts of the world, availability is there and prices are at (or very near) MSRP, yet you've still found reasons not to admit that maybe you overstated things a bit.