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We had an OEM drive in our hands, and the bezel was a plain beige color with nothing fancy to look at. However, the retail models of the Pioneer DVR-108, which are code-named DVR-A08XL, do come with either a black or beige bezel and have specialized round, silver eject buttons.




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The DVR-108 utilizes the NEC brand chipset.




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It will be interesting to see what the NEC 3500A has to offer compared to this Pioneer drive.

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  • RyanVM - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    No SATA? Count me out.

    (I hope manufacturers read these comments)
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  • Fishie - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    I decided to test that Ritek DVD+R DL (DVD 9) disc in my Toshiba M1802 DVD-ROM. It actually finished the test but it doesn't look so good.

    http://www.adventurousduo.com/host/ritekr9dltoshib...
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  • KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    Ian@CDRlabs:
    >How can you say this drive is the best you've tested when you haven't even burned any discs at 16x?

    Um? It burns the best quality discs at 12X and 8X. It doesnt have to burn at 16X to still burn better than any drive we have tested. And not that that really matters since 16X media availabilty is fairly non-existant still.

    Kristopher
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  • Fishie - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    Unfortunately, I only have Ritek GO3s right now so I cannot test 16x.I forgot to mention that I had the same results burning a Ritek 2.4x DVD-R9. It seemed to burn fine (using the latest version of Nero and DVD Shrink) but when I read it, it fails at the second layer. Reply
  • Degrador - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    With the 1.04 and 1.06 firmwares, yes, 12X was faster than 16X. However 1.10 starts the 16X zone a bit earlier, enough so that 16X burning is now faster than 12X. And yes, I also own one. However I use the beta firmware hack made by >:NIL - this allows overburning of 4X media (I can write Ritek G04s at 12X). Btw, booktype setting doesn't matter with DVD-R, it's not applicable. Reply
  • Fishie - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    I own a 108. Yes, it does read slower than it's counterparts. My Lite-On SOHC-5232K/Toshiba M1802 are faster readers. What I don't understand is why the review was done with firmware version 1.04 when they have two new firmwares out? I am using firmware 1.10 and it will burn my Ritek R03s 8x at 12x. It would only do 8x with v1.04

    http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e...

    http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e...

    http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/support_software.js...

    Also, CDR Info did a review. On their tests, the write time was faster at 12x than 16x. They list a quote from Pioneer as to why this happens. As far as booktype setting: With +R DL media, it automaticaly sets it to 0000h (DVD-ROM). It doesn't support it with -/+ R.
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  • LittleKing - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    Good review, but unless I'm looking at it wrong, the "Read Tests - Printed Media" page shows this to be a bit slower than it's counter parts.

    Also the overimage change doesn't work in FoxFire.

    LK
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  • Ian@CDRlabs - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    How can you say this drive is the best you've tested when you haven't even burned any discs at 16x? Reply
  • danidentity - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    Can't wait to see how the ND-3500A compares. If you guys want to test it, it's readily available at Newegg.

    And I'm not sure if you know, but it burns CD-R at 48x versus 32x for the Pioneer 108.
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  • hjs - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - link

    Can't wait to see the benq tested (who also has that bitsetting thing onboard) Reply

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